The return-to-office policies have settled, but the real challenge has just begun. As companies bring employees back to their desks, the question isn't whether people will return—it's whether they'll want to stay. The office buildings succeeding in this new era aren't necessarily those with the best locations or lowest rents, but rather those who approach office spaces with a hospitality mindset. Michael Kirchmann understood this shift before most developers even recognized the opportunity.

When's the last time a ping pong game determined whether you could close a $350,000 loan? For Jonathan Dodson, it happened during his first major development project after walking away from a banking career. His moral stand against workplace harassment led him to launch Pivot Project, an Oklahoma City-based development firm specializing in historic preservation and community revitalization. 

Many architecture firm owners struggle with the same challenge: How do you build a sustainable business that can thrive beyond the founder? Joe Furey solved this problem by bringing his finance and technology background to Michael Graves Architecture & Design, one of America's most iconic firms.

In Part 2 of our conversation with Michael Shvo, we dive deep into the execution of his Transamerica Pyramid transformation. Shvo reveals his development strategy for the three-year remastering project and how he navigated San Francisco's challenging entitlements process.

Michael Shvo reveals the remarkable story behind the $650 million transformation of the Transamerica Pyramid, from discovering his childhood drawing of the building to reshaping downtown San Francisco through hospitality-driven development.

Jim Somoza shares how Industry City transformed abandoned waterfront warehouses into Brooklyn's largest mixed-use campus by solving the fundamental challenge of warehouse-to-mixed-use conversions: making buildings designed for trucks work for people. From Innovation Alley's pedestrian spine to fostering collaboration among 650 businesses, this conversation reveals the infrastructure and relationship strategies that drive successful adaptive reuse.